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<div>The gang was live in D.C. last night to talk President Biden challenging Donald Trump to a debate in June. The former president accepted the early debate, but is it a smart move from the White House?<br>
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Plus, the gang dives deep on where they stand on recent polling and the mindset of “the people,” and ponder whether they would vote for former GOP. Gov. Larry Hogan for the open Maryland senate seat now that the Democratic primary in the state is over.</div>

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Eat Less Butter (Live from DC)

<div>Sarah and JVL talk about the cross examination of Stormy Daniels, Biden’s move to deny Israel heavy ordinance, Marco Rubio’s VP quest, and all of the anti-anti-Trumpers getting ready to jump back on side. It’s a big episode.<br>
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Stormy with a Chance of Guilty (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)

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You Don't Want to Hear All the Stormy Details

<div>Also: Trump's first criminal trial is going great.<br>
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